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How to Take The Ticket and WIN!

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:59 pm    Post subject: How to Take The Ticket and WIN!  Reply with quote

Bejay got me thinking over on Hefty's thread about how hard it must be for some of you to imagine how they could win against the government. I can imagine if you have never done such a thing it can probably be quite the mystery what the process might be.

beebarjay wrote:

But I would like to hear of a Calif. citation beiong issued and the method by which that citation would be adjudicated.  Feel free to clue me in, no harm in my lack of knowledge.  But keep it down in the foundation.  I can't even think about advancing beyond the basics yet into all the layers of attempted authority.


Here is a very well documented story of just how such a challenge is made successfully. Jim Smith took on the Forest Service and won for all of us. Read this account and notice how Jim went through the process of receiving the citation, refusing the fine, and challenging in Federal Administrative "court".

Jim not only won but he won without a lawyer and with only the cost of gas and a small paperwork fee. I hope that Jim's story will enlighten and inspire you.

I don't know Jim but I do know the Federal Magistrate that heard his case. Jim did a great job in forcing a very tough "judge" to do his job and overthrow the ticket and the program that charged the forest use fees.

The Western Slope No Fee Coalition helped Jim as they have helped many people including the 9th Circuit win in January on this very same issue. Jim's case was used there as the basis of challenge in the 9th Circuit's decision to stop the "Adventure Pass" type illegal fees. These are hardworking people that get results.

Read Here:

Another group that has won cases for years is the Mountain States Legal Foundation. Most of the winning major mining cases have for years been supported by this group. Here is a short list of their winning cases. You will recognize many of them as very important cases. If you ever get to feeling miners never win cases go back and read the ongoing advances for miners by this excellent and effective group.

Both Western Slope No Fee Coalition and Mountain States Legal Foundation have long histories of fighting the good fight and winning. Unlike so many of the far western miners organizations they have been very effective in preserving and advancing our rights.

Look them over. If you are inclined to donate money to help advance the cause please consider these two groups. They actually win cases and have done more for small miners than any other group. A proven track record gets my vote every time.


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