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OCCUPY OUR WATERS IDAHO IS TAKING A STAND!

 
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NCrossman



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:02 pm    Post subject: OCCUPY OUR WATERS IDAHO IS TAKING A STAND!  Reply with quote

Interesting: Just got word of this. Hope anyone can make it from anywhere.

I just got off the phone with Mr. Chmelik and he wants this done soon. He said, "I am bringing my Sheriff with me and if they want to harass or arrest anyone, then they will have to arrest us all!" Mr. Chmelik wants a goal of 5000 + miners to make the "Occupy Our Rivers Movement."  Our two senators have jumped on board to help Mr. Chmelik. So keep an eye out for news on this to come. In the meantime, read what Mr. Chmelik wrote in the Idaho County newsletter:


OCCUPY OUR RIVERS

CALL TO ACTION

Recent Events in Idaho have prompted several citizens to take actions and demand accountability from their government and I am extremely proud of their actions in their quest for justice.

Two weeks before the Riggins Rodeo the BLM attempted to close Shorts Bar and Island bar. These two beaches are central to accommodating spectators who travel from out the region to enjoy the rodeo and the beauty of the Salmon River. Two weeks before the jet boat races the Coast Guard attempted to shut the race down by not sanctioning the race. In both of these cases citizens stood up and said no and that we the people have had enough.



Now the EPA under the threat of a lawsuit from the Idaho Conservation League is saying no to recreational dredge miners on the premise they are introducing a pollutant discharge into the river when nothing could be further from the truth and U.S. Supreme Court precedent reinforces the dredge miners position. If they can do this to the dredge miners, the jet boaters will be next.

If we do not take action and unite, then we get the government we tolerate.



It is the view of this elected official that we come together and peacefully assemble to petition our government for a redress of grievances, and formally protest the out of control tyrannical government imposing their ideas of how we should live in the west.

If the socialists can come together and occupy Wall Street, surely we can Occupy the River for a day. I would personally support all dredge miners and all other interested parties to come together and have a day of protest. It is our right and I believe our duty to stand united. As a sitting county commissioner I will personally assist the dredgers and dare the EPA to arrest me while exercising our First Amendment Rights. Can I count on you?



One person cannot do everything, however, together we can all do something. We need people to help us organize this event, set a date and get the word out. I will leave you with this thought, In 1857 in his personal conviction in battling for freedom and the equal rights of all as provided for under our Constitution, Frederick Douglas stated, "Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did, and it never will. Find out just what people will submit to, and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them; and these will continue until they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress."



Sincerely,

Jim Chmelik

Idaho County Commissioner

District III

(208) 983-8133
JIM.CHMELIK@GMAIL.COM
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know if any of you have made calls to Mr. Chmelik or not, but he has said that he has been calls/emails from a lot of people from all over including California and Oregon.  So, we are now on board to setting up the committee. Mr. Chmelik has stated that he will back anything we (the miners) need at anytime. so If you have called, thank you. If you have not, Please do. Mr. Chmelik really needs to hear from you on doing this Occupy our Waters.

And finally, WE ARE NEEDING A LOT OF DREDGES/DREDGERS. WE ARE LOOKING FOR 500 OR MORE TO SET IN SOMEWHERE! DETAILS TO COME!
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

THE EVENT IS NOW TAKING PLACE! PLEASE JOIN IF YOU WOULD LIKE. WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE ALL THE SUPPORT POSSIBLE. THANKS.

HERE IS THE OFFICIAL FLYER FOR THE EVENT.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OFFICIAL FLYER FOR EVENT:


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would suggest the South Fork of the Payette or the Boise river...as both have been closed to dredging this year.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With permission I will post this on some other mining forum that gets tremendous amounts of daily  participants.

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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2014 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes beebarjay... Post away! THANK YOU.  WE ALREADY HAVE ABOUT 100 CONFIRMED THEY ARE COMING.  BUT I DON'T GET TO HAVE CONTACT WITH EVERYONE UNFORTUNATELY!  I.E. 2 FROM INDIANA 2 FROM NORTH DAKOTA 8 FROM AZ 2 FROM TX 20 FROM WA & 8 FROM OR... AND THE REST JUST FROM AROUND BOISE.
AND WE DO HAVE A DONATION PAGE SET UP FOR BATHROOM COSTS AND TRASH SERVICES: PLEASE LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT ANYTHING HELPS AND IF THEY DONATE OVER $25, WE WILL SEND THEM An event T-SHIRT. HERE IS THE PAGE: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Oc...e-in-Event/648178355254220?ref=hl

Wallrat, I am not saying you are wrong, but most of us who were on the SF Payette and BOISE river last year are actually going back there after this event is over.  And we aren't getting the EPA permit either. That is the purpose of the protest. It isn't just for the week, it is for the season. The week is just to be able to gather bodies to show the governor, the legislation, and all the nay sayers that this can and will happen on opening day (6/30); while being a success.  

EPA CAN'T ENFORCE A FEDERAL RULE, especially if they don't have the staff to do it. Last year they said they don't have the staff to corner everyone and if no one gets an EPA permit, then they don't know where to go looking for people.

See in my opinion, I believe that those stupid papers are death traps. They ask you where, when, why and how... Why?? Just so it is easier on them to find you and harass you?? I don't buy their permit and I've been through the courts before, and I'll do it again! I AM FIGHTING MAD!  AND I REFUSE TO BE A SHEEP! LET THEM COME FIND ME ON THEIR OWN, AND THEN WE WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.  

My point is come and bring your friends and enjoy a PEACEFUL, CIVIL, FUN AND FAMILY oriented demonstration and prove that Americans are still willing to stand up for our rights.  We have to in order to leave a future for our children.
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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2014 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where in Riggins will this be happening? Are there any scheduled events or happenings?
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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2014 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WALLRAT, It's actually outside Riggins city limits, it is on Shortsbar, Island Bar, all rv campgrounds in town should be available, but most of us will reside outside city limits and then of course, there are all the pullout camp spots up and down the forest service roads. Riggins is known for not having a lot of "designated" camp grounds. But they do advertise to just pull off and camp. I know it sounds weird.. But true.

Monday 6/30-Sunday 7/6 come all week or just a couple days no worry!  And Riggins doesn't do a 4th of July celebration anymore and since that quit, it just became dead other than a few rafters there.  So No, not any events going on that weekend, which is why we sort of picked those dates.

Hope you can make it out!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I understand the event in 2015 is to be on the Middle Fk. of the Payette...is that correct?

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