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Wallrat

New EPA Regs

This is the worst news since the California dredge ban. I hardly know where to go to get started with a defense against such madness...41 pages of tyranny.


http://yosemite.epa.gov/r10/water.nsf/npdes+permits/idsuction-gp
NCrossman

I AGREE WITH YOU 100% WALLRAT! AS I PRINT THEM OFF, I CAN NOT BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS ONLY ONE MINER THAT THEY ALLOWED ON THE "COMMENTING COMMITTEE.." BUT I AM GOING THROUGH THEM. WE HAVE ALREADY BEEN MINING THIS YEAR (YES IN THE COLD WATER) AND HAVE ALREADY BEEN SHUT DOWN BY THE USFS. this time, it was only a "cease and desist" warning for "operating out of 'dredging' season." not for permit or no permit issues...

WHAT IS GOING ON WITH OREGON? I HEARD THEY HAVE A MORATORIUM ON DREDGING NOW? ANYONE KNOW?
Wallrat

Yes, it's so obvious that they want to 100% stop dredging. The old 49ers must be rolling in their graves.
Dizzy

means to fight

I was reading through the epa comments and responses.
http://www.epa.gov/region10/pdf/p..._suction_dredge_idg370000_rtc.pdf     pg 27. comment 70 and response.

Read up on the epa's response and found this.
http://masglp.olemiss.edu/Water%20Log/WL24/24.1CWA.htm
power co V. Train.
Am I on the right track?
NCrossman

OK PEOPLE. HERE IS YOUR CHANCE. IF YOU WANT TO DREDGE AND KEEP YOUR RIGHTS TO MINE HERE IN BEAUTIFUL IDAHO. THEN I SUGGEST THAT YOU ATTEND AND GET PEOPLE TO ATTEND THIS CALL TO ACTION!

OCCUPY OUR RIVERS

CALL TO ACTION

Recent Events in Idaho have prompted several citizens to take actions and demand accountability from their government and I am extremely proud of their actions in their quest for justice.

Two weeks before the Riggins Rodeo the BLM attempted to close Shorts Bar and Island bar. These two beaches are central to accommodating spectators who travel from out the region to enjoy the rodeo and the beauty of the Salmon River. Two weeks before the jet boat races the Coast Guard attempted to shut the race down by not sanctioning the race. In both of these cases citizens stood up and said no and that we the people have had enough.



Now the EPA under the threat of a lawsuit from the Idaho Conservation League is saying no to recreational dredge miners on the premise they are introducing a pollutant discharge into the river when nothing could be further from the truth and U.S. Supreme Court precedent reinforces the dredge miners position. If they can do this to the dredge miners, the jet boaters will be next.

If we do not take action and unite, then we get the government we tolerate.



It is the view of this elected official that we come together and peacefully assemble to petition our government for a redress of grievances, and formally protest the out of control tyrannical government imposing their ideas of how we should live in the west.

If the socialists can come together and occupy Wall Street, surely we can Occupy the River for a day. I would personally support all dredge miners and all other interested parties to come together and have a day of protest. It is our right and I believe our duty to stand united. As a sitting county commissioner I will personally assist the dredgers and dare the EPA to arrest me while exercising our First Amendment Rights. Can I count on you?



One person cannot do everything, however, together we can all do something. We need people to help us organize this event, set a date and get the word out. I will leave you with this thought, In 1857 in his personal conviction in battling for freedom and the equal rights of all as provided for under our Constitution, Frederick Douglas stated, "Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did, and it never will. Find out just what people will submit to, and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them; and these will continue until they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress."



Sincerely,

Jim Chmelik

Idaho County Commissioner

District III

(208) 983-8133
EMAIL: Jchmelik@idahocounty.org
NCrossman

Just an update on this EPA BS.

So, we have a couple members who have filed for this "general EPA permit" and all of their claims are spread out over Idaho. So, they filed for a permit "just to see what happens" and low and behold... Imagine this, they were DENIED! For every permit that they filed for every claim they had. All denied. DENIED> DENIED>DENIED....pretty sad.

So, I have decided that the EPA is not worth my time to worry about. I am going to keep fighting to remove them, even though they aren't "actually" here. See Idaho doesn't have an agreement with the EPA whatsoever. The only reason this has "sprung" up was because they have just decided that they want to do this, but they don't actually have the written authority to do it. But they are trying hard and fast for next year. This year, they were testing the waters to see how far they can push the limits without actually having the authorization to be here and do all this crap...
Wallrat

Nicole, how do you know that Idaho has no agreement with the EPA, or that they even need one? Not saying you're wrong, I just like to have it from an authoritative source in case I need to use in in court later. I can't stand up there and say "Nuh-uh, Nicole said they didn't have any right to make me get that permit!" I have no intention to get one either, partly because I question their right, and partly because of the problems with Chad Hood last year. As it is now they defaulted on the NOI application, and so I'm covered for the operations I'm doing. The new EPA regs require an annual NOI. I'll NEVER do that.
NCrossman

Hi Wallrat!

Sorry it has taken me so long. I have been out on the water. I came home to clean up and head back out.

Anyway, as far as the EPA agreement in ID goes, check the following link out and you will see that Idaho is one of the few states left without an agreement.  It should come right up and look for IDaho. This IS THE EPA website... Can't get any clearer than this.

http://cfpub.epa.gov/npdes/statestats.cfm
daubster

NCrossman wrote:
Hi Wallrat!

Sorry it has taken me so long. I have been out on the water. I came home to clean up and head back out.

Anyway, as far as the EPA agreement in ID goes, check the following link out and you will see that Idaho is one of the few states left without an agreement.  It should come right up and look for IDaho. This IS THE EPA website... Can't get any clearer than this.

http://cfpub.epa.gov/npdes/statestats.cfm


Did anybody notice that the District of Columbia has no agreement with the EPA?

Can't live by their own regulations?
NCrossman

I did. I also thought the same thing about DC Daubster. They should be first place to have the EPA. Perhaps their own ideas and regulations would help clean up the environment there and moral for that matter!

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